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Postby theprophet0 on Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:26 am

krosch wrote:Its not online yet but hopefully in the near future. Yeah its a conservative newspaper just like the Ripsaw is a liberal Newspaper. The stories are obviously more editoral in nature.

Here is my article though.


Title The Republican Sterotype by Eldon Krosch Jr.


What do Marilyn Manson, and I have in common? We are Republicans, even though most of us don't fit a stereotypical conservative mold.
You mean you and Mary are logcabin republicans? :twisted:
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Postby krosch on Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:32 pm

Huh?
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Postby Anti_Liberal on Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:19 pm

huh? Duluth?.....conservative paper? yeah right....next you'll tell me Madison has one too! :lol:
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Postby krosch on Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:46 pm

Well I happen to be a staff member and yes its a conservative campus newspaper. And while I am not certain I believe Madison does have a conservative newspaper on campus.... I know far more liberal schools like Rutgers and Berkley do.
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Postby ron28 on Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:14 pm

I read it, and can't exactly say it's a newspaper. More like a propaganda piece, similar to the Daily Worker. Also about as misinformed on the facts as The Statesman, so good luck with that Krosh. (I found your article somewhat amusing, so I'll give you that.)
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Postby cole0271 on Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:47 pm

is it online? i am half-a-country away.
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Postby krosch on Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:45 am

Its not online yet but hopefully in the near future. Yeah its a conservative newspaper just like the Ripsaw is a liberal Newspaper. The stories are obviously more editoral in nature.

Here is my article though.


Title The Republican Sterotype by Eldon Krosch Jr.


What do Marilyn Manson, Alice Cooper Charles Barkley, Clint Eastwood, The Rock, Ben Stein and I have in common? We are all Republicans, even though most of us don't fit a stereotypical conservative mold.
When I attended my first Conservative Political Action Conference in
Washington DC, I made the trip in a beat-up 1990 Ford Taurus with a very
liberal friend of mine. He was sometimes of the opinion that anyone
supporting Republicans was screwing the common working individual. He
would often fail to define this belief, but it is not an uncommon situation from those with strong political beliefs, whatever ideal they subscribe to. However, we weregreat friends, and his desire to tour DC effectively cut the cost of my road trip in half.

Greeting me when I finally arrived at the conference was a 400 plus pound man with arms covered in tattoos. He looked like a motorcycle gang tough guy from a bad action movie. He was volunteering and handing out literature at the Pro-Life Booth. This was the week of the Columbia Space Shuttle accident, and later when President Bush was speaking about the deaths of the shuttle crew, he started screaming about how liberal President Bush was. "Thousands die every year because of abortion and he says nothing, but he will speak to the nation about these 7," he said. Not what I was expecting at a conservative political conference, but certainly a lesson in not reading a book by its cover.

My discussions with my friend throughout the weekend of course continued
when we visited a few of the sites around the capital. Our discussions were
civil and sadly that is more than I can say about a number of political
discussions I have been involved in, despite my attempts to the contrary.

I have had discussions with liberal acquaintances, friends, or random people about many issues where I hold a "liberal" stance. Some of these include Gay marriage, the benefits of being in a labor union, growing up on welfare, and other issues. We are having a great conversation, and they love everything I have to say. Then the ugly R word comes out, and they are suddenly angry that I am a Republican. "How can you possibly be a Republican?" they ask.

Well that could be a book in itself, but to make a long story short: I agree
with the Republicans more than the Democrats. Often people have this non-existent stereotype in mind when they think of a person with a particular political background. These generalizations, most often as you can see from the previous examples, are far off base.

There are people out there who believe you are stupid, immoral, corrupt, or simply wrong for believing differently than they do. Though obviously if you have been reading this article, you understand I do agree with many of these people on issue X just before they find out my party affiliation, and then I am quickly deemed immoral, and most likely, stupid.

Suddenly in a flash their opinion of me switches from an enlightened person who understands the issues to ignorant in a single statement. If you followed the liberal stereotype of Republicans, you would believe we are the party of intolerance. While I won't accuse the Democrats of being the party of intolerance, it's a bad joke at best to suggest they are somehow more tolerant of opposing ideals than Republicans. Sometimes if you have the wrong kind of diversity, whether that's an idea, belief in religion, philosophy or a political party, quite simply you are wrong and
unintelligent.

Much of this misunderstanding is based on the stereotypical Conservative
Republican. I have met literally thousands of activists during my political
involvement. I have never met this stereotypical Republican, though I have looked often. Perhaps someone out there can point this person out to me sometime, so I can forward a few comments to him or her that I have heard over the years.

On the drive back from Washington DC during one of the many political
discussions with my friend, he said, "Well I may never agree with you, but
after this weekend I know you are in politics for the right reasons." This
statement moved me more than most statements in political discussions ever will, because the political arena would be a much better place if more
people came to realize differences of opinions don't necessarily mean
differences in morality, intelligence, goals, or other such things.

Now ask yourself a few questions. Do you believe a difference of opinion
represents intolerance or stupidity on the part of the other person? If your
answer is yes then look into a mirror and reflect for a moment on
intolerance and how exactly you define it. You may find intolerance staring
back at you from behind the mirror.
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Postby krosch on Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:13 pm

A Second issue is in the works and should be hitting UMD sometime next week.

My next article is one debt and saving (on a personal level)
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Postby cole0271 on Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:46 am

i can testify to the existence of mondo-harassing phone calls for you as far back as '00-'01.
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Postby krosch on Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:48 pm

Yeah I went through a Banruptcy a little over 2 years ago and since have not missed a single payment. Now I am getting ready to likely buy a duplex this Spring. :lol:
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Postby krosch on Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:34 pm

http://constellationsinred.blogspot.com/2007/01/duluth-truth-sucks.html

The first (to my knowledge) press (yes its just a blog) to the Duluth Truth. I got a little post on there. Guess my article was not extreme enough to get bitched about. :lol:
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Postby Stang76 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:38 pm

krosch wrote:Yeah I went through a Banruptcy a little over 2 years ago


Did you go for the 7 or 11?
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Postby krosch on Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:43 pm

Chapter 7 in my situation I would have bascially been paying $10,000 to get the bankruptcy off from my credit history in 7 years rather than 10... Seemed like a no brainer...
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Postby UMD TSAR on Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:45 pm

Sweet. Financial advise from somebody who went bankrupt.
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Postby krosch on Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:06 pm

I think someone who has gone bankrupt likely knows more than most people about money if they took the chance like I have to fix the situation. More importantly I have worked very hard to how understand credit, money, and investing to ensure it doesn't happen again.

I can assure you post bankruptcy I have more money knowledge than 90% of the people my age. So to answer your question TSAR yeah someone who has gone bankrupt does have a lot to share about how to avoid it.
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Postby ron28 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:19 pm

The main reason this "paper" is such garbage is that it does nothing to raise the level of political debate. As opposed to conservative publications like the New Republic or even the weekly standard, organizations who print civil and responsible articles with facts, the Truth simply makes cheap, emotional attacks which are unfettered by any type of reasonable logic. Case in point: the abortion article. One side of the spread shows a picture of a baby inside a heart while the other side shows a mutilated fetus. Wow, great debate. And quotes from Ann coulter about how democrats hate america are always nice.

Cleary the editor of this paper is positioning himself for a job as a political hack for the GOP.
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Postby krosch on Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:37 pm

The paper is obviously conservative and is much in the tradition of papers like the Ripsaw. Also the Editor is a women which shows how close you bothered to look at the paper before denouncing it.
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Postby Stang76 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:01 pm

krosch wrote:Chapter 7 in my situation I would have bascially been paying $10,000 to get the bankruptcy off from my credit history in 7 years rather than 10... Seemed like a no brainer...


You were lucky to squeeze that one in just before the BAPCPA got passed in '05. From what I can see in my small corner of a collections dept, there's about a snowball's chance in hell of getting a BK7 through the system now.
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Postby krosch on Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:45 pm

From my understanding and I have no detailed knowledge of the new bill its that most everyone can still get chapter 7 its just a much bigger pain in the ass. Unless you are just totally beyond any hope of crawling out without it.
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Postby Stang76 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:39 am

Much bigger pain in the ass = much more of your lawyer's time = much much more $$$. Most likely too much $$$ for someone who is already in the hole.

There's a reason lending institutions lobbied for this so aggressively.
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Postby krosch on Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:42 am

I did all of my bankruptcy papers on my own because I didn't want to pay the $500-$800 to have them do it. For Justification I think it mostly adds to the person filing needing to justify more clearly why they can't get out without it. Also by pain in the ass they are now required to get financial and credit councling from a non profit (something I tried myself before I filed).

Also the fact the number of bankrutcies with the new has dropped I think is very misleading at this point. It will be a few years before we get a better idea. Beause a lot of lawyers and people themselves were thinking well crap if I am going to file I better file now rather than wait for the new law. So I think a lot of people who might not have filed did because they were afraid it would be much harder later.

Also once the Lawyers get more used to the new law it will take them less time to deal with it.
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